Omaxe Spa Village Sector 78

[Vicky0909]

Thank you Vicky.... please dedicate these pics to all of us.
Did u visit yesterday. Due to Christmas break, there were more than 20 families at the project site (not sure for ONH or OSV).
Please add some insights. Thank you

I visited the site on the 16th. As you would have seen the other recent pics posted by various members who have visited around the 25th, the flooring stands pending. In fact I even noticed on few flats written "HOLD" for which I have also posted a pic, which I fail understand why & there nobody could answer it to the relevance. In these flats I observed the complete flooring is pending, as in others the flooring of the living area was done.

Yes, when I visited the site I did see the work happening & the guy in the marketing office informed that they will start offering the possession by June- July'13. Though according to my opinion it will definitely take more than that anyways.

There are many rightful questions that are the cause of concern:
1. Increase in the area at the time of possession: instead which should be reduced due to the ONH in the same plot.
2. Quality of construction & the material being used: My observation is that the main doors are not of proper quality.
3. There are leakages & dampness on the wall now itself, which is not a good sign. This can create major issues later & can not be controlled at the later stage.
4. Call for the second last installment: which is not justified looking at the present condition of the project.
5. Approach to the project: Yes agreed the work is going on, but are they is sync with the current scenario. The basic infra should have been ready by now. The govt is delaying on this & no proper action is being taken.

All it looks at this situation is that we will have to fight for our rights to get the things in place and make it a place what was projected at the time of sales & make it a DREAM HOME that we all have aspired for.

Be united be strong!

[cgd3psg]

But why should there be increase in EDC/IDC as that is calculated for plot and not for flat. Omaxe has already collected EDC from us for its 11 Arcs plot and has submitted same to govt. since overall area of plot is same so there will not be increase in EDC for Omaxe then why should we pay extra. Not to mention that we have already paid more than what govt had asked Omaxe to pay.
When there is no change in layout and floor plan why would be there any increase in areas, as far as internal 25mt road is considered that was already there in original plan and that is not anything new. We have ONH there on same 11 Arcs plot and there should be reduction in charges for common area as ONH has been built on same plot.
Can anyone tell what is plot size of OSV after deducting ONH.

Regards,
Ashutosh Koul

Not only ONH has been built in same 11 acres land, 24m road bisecting ONH & OSV passes thru this land. This further reduces the common area. Therefore, ideally the super area should get reduced as common area has reduced. Any increase in super area will be unjustified.

[brandoo]

In fact I even noticed on few flats written "HOLD"
All it looks at this situation is that we will have to fight for our rights to get the things in place and make it a place what was projected at the time of sales & make it a DREAM HOME that we all have aspired for.

Be united be strong!

Hold implies that either these are not sold or buyer did not make the payment so far. I have also seen in castle D and Aspen that flooring in bathrooms, balconies and master bedroom is not done.
Lux, hold and nothing written on the entrance.

I did calculation based on the layout plan and LOI approved area and FAR for license No 248: Area: 11.012 acres, FAR 175,
Total Super area: 839444.76
According to the layout:
OSV Sper Area Total Floors Unit on each floor Towerwise super area Total Units
Aspen A 1600 13 4 83200 52
Aspen B 1600 12 4 76800 48
Aspen D 1600 14 4 89600 56
Castle B 1900 10 4 76000 40
Castle D 1900 13 4 98800 52
Signature 2350 11 3 77550 33
Total 501950 281
ONH
Triumph 850 8 8 54400 64
Chelsea 2 bhk 1100 4 12 52800 48
Chelsea 3 bhk 1350 4 12 64800 48
Bloomberg 2 BHK 1100 4 12 52800 48
Bloomberg 3 BHK 1350 4 12 64800 48
Empire 2 BHK 1100 4 12 52800 48
Empire 3 BHK 1350 4 12 64800 48
Total 407200 352
Total License No 248 909150 633

According to this Omaxe is constructing more than the approved. Under construction super area: 909150, permissible area: 839444.76, difference/excess: 69705 and if Omaxe decide to increase (I am sure company will increase) then this will further increase.

Together we shall stand, divided we fall and Omaxe will try and divide at least those who are actively asking legitimate but uncomfortable questions. Please file RTI applications seeking following information:
1. Original Layout and terms and condition under which layout was approved, Original FAR
2. Whether modified, if yes then approved layout, floor plans and FAR
3. Audited statement of EDC paid to government by holder of license No 248.
4. All the communication with holder of license No 248.

Please do not use word Omaxe limited rather use file no and license No. Attach Rs 50 DD/PO or stamp paper along with application and address it to SPIO, Dist TP, HQ, Chandigarh.
I am awaiting the reply. Once denied on the ground of fee not paid and also got suggestion that I need to pay Rs 50 rather than 10 as fee. I paid Rs 10 as fee. With new application, I have paid Rs 50. Once we information on license No 248, we can approach consumer forum (deficiency in customer service, not providing documentary evidences, over charging etc), file a case with EOW (cheating, fraudulent means and over charging).

As requested by Vicky, please stay united, we can make OSV a better place to live without getting looted by the builder. We all are equals,no leader, we are and will continue to fight for right cause. We all have paid before time without question (as long as builder demanded as per BBA) and deserve to be heard and get response from customer care.

Best

[chanchal]

I want to add one more suggestion that we should not take possession of our flats in hurry.We have to make sure all the common areas and facilities are in place, as if this is not done or carried out then we know the consequences.We will be chasing the builder.
What do you all think about it?

Regards,

Chanchal

[cgd3psg]

I want to add one more suggestion that we should not take possession of our flats in hurry.We have to make sure all the common areas and facilities are in place, as if this is not done or carried out then we know the consequences.We will be chasing the builder.
What do you all think about it?

Regards,

Chanchal

Hi,

I agree, but builder will push us to take possession & will seek penalty if we don't take. Can we deny possession on grounds like club house, swimming pool etc.

Amit

[brandoo]

All the builders has adopted this malpractice of offering possession tower by tower. This is normal practice as of now and builder complete the amenities afterwords. I have no idea how to challenge this. This can only be done if all the buyers refuse to take possession without completed project in all respect. Realistically speaking all the buyers will not be in position to refuse because many of them are staying on rent, some are waiting for 5 years, some of them are not online etc. Builder know this reality and will take full advantage of it.

Our unit will be at toss as soon as possession is offered. First 1900 unit then 1600 units then 1900, again 1600 and finally 2350 units will be offered. We all will have individual issues apart from common issues to deal with.
Guys please drop your advise.

[kanvit]

apart from that they will charge " holding charge" if possession is not taken under the stipulated time. It would be difficult for many of us to pay this additional amount (we are already expecting some increase in super area etc.)

... but I would recommend that we should visit the site more frequently in a group now as possession is nearing...this will keep them on toes if they see us united and at least force them to think twice before asking for any incriminating demand...
... I propose to visit on 26th January... at least 15~20 people must be present to make a good impact...

[drajitpratap]

Meeting on 26th is good idea. Individually it is very difficult to fight with builders and moving to court of law is not a easy option.

[Vicky0909]

Greetings to all the fellow buyers at OSV.

I hope we all would have received the request to clear the 11th Installment, which was to be paid on the completion of the flooring work.

I had visited the site last month & had also posted some pictures for your reference. I had gone upto the 9th floor in the castle tower and my observation was that the flooring work was not done in many of the flats.
So on receiving the request I mailed them the concern and in reply they sent me a pic of the tower from outside saying the work is in progress & I should release the due payment to avoid interest.

Now my question is: whenever we mail them a concern they reply out of the context, can something be done on this part?
secondly, what is the take from other buyers on the said installment?

As per them the possessions should start by the mid of this year: R we really willing & ready to take the possession in these circumstances?

I think the questions & apprehension are multiplying on day to day basis.

What is your take on the situation dear frns? How can V pressurize them to complete the due work before asking for the relevant installment?

[sunilusa]

What are the options we have ?


If we don't make payments or delay the payments now, OMAXE is going to add interest and other penalties at the end before they give us the flat. We are kind of stuck. Govt machinery is so slow.

Regards
Sunil Anand

[brandoo]

Greetings to all the fellow buyers at OSV.
Now my question is: whenever we mail them a concern they reply out of the context, can something be done on this part? secondly, what is the take from other buyers on the said installment? As per them the possessions should start by the mid of this year: R we really willing & ready to take the possession in these circumstances?
I think the questions & apprehension are multiplying on day to day basis.
What is your take on the situation dear frns? How can V pressurize them to complete the due work before asking for the relevant installment?

Till date Omaxe have taken 95% payment from all the buyers including CLP and DP. 5% on offer of possession is left with us. Financially it doesn't make any sense for Omaxe to complete this project ASAP. In addition EDC and EEDC is also extracted from buyers.

Let me come to delay penalty: I read the BBA time and again all I could grasp was that it's one sided, even if we delay one payment, builder is not liable to pay delay penalty and most of us have delayed at least one payment due to one or the other reason which are beyond our control. These reasons could be postal delay, Omaxe received demand letter pretty late, travelling due to work or something, and most did resist the enhanced EDC.

Omaxe doesn't respond to my mails at all.

Under the current circumstances, we will have to take possession as and when offered otherwise builder will start holding charges which we will have to pay otherwise apartment will not be registered in our name. Those who own house in NCR to live can wait another year before moving in but few unlucky chaps will have no option to shift immediately to avoid the double whammy of EMI and rent. How can one feel safe in a society where construction is on? Why should we pay maintenance for entire society when common facilities are not in place except one or two guards.

I am of the opinion that either take legal action or pay up and stop cribbing. One big Noida builder who demanded Rs 6L additional, when opposed builder told friend of mine and I quote, "you have paid Rs 65L but at the moment its 1 CR." Message was loud and clear, pay or take money back.

[mnayar]

Hi all

Have you guys paid the Enhanced EDC as per the original demand of Rs 165/sq ft to Omaxe?

I am in a dilemma if I should continue to hold back the payment or pay it off if most of the people have already paid the amount

[cgd3psg]

Hi all

Have you guys paid the Enhanced EDC as per the original demand of Rs 165/sq ft to Omaxe?

I am in a dilemma if I should continue to hold back the payment or pay it off if most of the people have already paid the amount

I have paid it

Amit

[mnayar]

I believe that after last years verdict to waive off the retrospective interest on the Enhanced EDC the demand was revised by some projects. RPS Savana and Omaxe heights are a couple of the projects that i am aware of

Shouldn't that verdict have an impact on the EEDC demand for Spa village as well?

[yogesh]

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